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cosmic_celery ([personal profile] cosmic_celery) wrote2009-06-20 05:10 pm
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A few things:

First, a question: Do you think that a story can be successfully written from the POV of a character's stream of consciousness? I was playing with the idea, but I'm not entirely sure if it works. I don't mean just first-person, I mean actual head-speak if you will. Maybe this would work better with an example?

Extending a hand to turn the left buffering dial, and –

Oh. and there, sitting, suddenly – well, perhaps not so suddenly, I could have overlooked – nonsense. No. Couldn’t have. Suddenly, something’s there. Bright pink cardstock folded in half, a pressed flower on its front (a geranium? Yes, I think so). …folded in half, pressed white geranium on its front. I’ll pick it up, examine the front…What do white geraniums represent again? Preference? Doe-eyed compassion? Remembrance? I don’t recall.

Any which way, it’s still rather strange, isn’t it? - Bright pink cardstock folded in half, with a pressed white geranium signifying something or most probably nothing at all on its front, suddenly appearing on top of the TARDIS console waiting to be found by me. Most strange. Most strange indeed.

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And speaking of Six, I've just started RPing him over at [livejournal.com profile] brb_gallifrey. It's a fun community, and neat to have a character interacting with real people as well as other characters. Everyone should stop by, especially since I'm running the Six weeks in the Classic Who watch-a-thon! No treats to anyone who guesses which episode I'm picking first - it's too easy.

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And a meme:

1. Leave me a comment saying, "Interview me!"
2. I will respond by asking you five questions. I get to pick the questions.
3. You will post the answers to the questions (and the questions themselves) on your blog or journal.
4. You will include this explanation and an offer to interview someone else in the same post.
5. When others comment asking to be interviewed, you will ask them five questions. And thus the endless cycle of the meme goes on and on and on and on...


[livejournal.com profile] dragonessa24 gave me these:
1. How did you get into Doctor Who?
The memory is a bit fuzzy, to be honest, but I think I started when the Christopher Eccleston series started on SciFi channel here. Then I looked up all the classic stuff, and I've become much more a fan of that than of the new series. So, in some ways Five is "my Doctor," because he's the first I saw the complete episodes of, and in some ways it's Nine because he's who I started with. As for my favorite, that's a tie between Five and Six. :)

I really got sucked into Doctor Who, I think, because the universe is so big, has been around for such a long time, and has so much spin-off media, that I can go off and dive in at any point and still come up with much more to explore.

2. What do you think of Matt Smith as Eleven?
I don't know. Before he was announced, I wanted an older actor in the role - perhaps more of a Pertwee type. I haven't seen Smith as the Doctor yet, and I'm reserving judgment 'till then, but I am looking forward to seeing what he and Moffat are going to do with the show!

3. Which BF audios have you listened to and which one is your favorite?
Not many, but I've definitely enjoyed the ones that I have listened to. My favorite is probably Loup Garou, because of the good Turlough moments. They gave him some good material in that one. All of the Turlough audios are good, really. For Six, both ...ish and Year of the Pig because he gets to be verbose and intellectual and very Six in both, and I love that.

I've just finished Scherzo which I really liked. It's an eighth Doctor audio with Charley right after Zagreus and it all takes place in one location (pretty much), which makes almost the entire thing dialogue between the Doctor and Charley. I love stories that are limited like that. Which brings me to...

4. What's your favorite Stargate Atlantis episode, and why?
There's no doubt that it's Grace Under Pressure, in which Rodney is stuck in a puddle jumper, switching between monologue and hallucination for most of the episode. Having one character in a scene is definitely a challenge for the writer, and the limited scope really brings out the character and creates an engaging story - the kind you can't have with fifteen different characters and an evil alien force. Rodney's the best possible character they could have picked to give that sort of episode...and I'm a sucker for any looks into any character's thought processes and inner world.

5. What sciences are you interested in?
Uh...well, I've always been a bit more for science fiction than actual, hard science. Science isn't my field of study, but I can't say that I'm disinterested in it either. I like all science and I'm particularly interested in how the world of theoretical physics is branching out to better understand the universe big and small. I just don't know very much about it, and I wish I knew more. Just another thing to research into!

[identity profile] notusachan.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I WANT YOUR SIX TO HANG WITH MY CHARLEY. But but but. I don't play her there. And I doubt there's more than like three of us there who even know who she is and and yeeaaah.

But um, on a more related note, I think a story like that would be really interesting to read. :3

[identity profile] cosmic-celery.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 04:09 am (UTC)(link)
I really do like Charley, but I haven't listened to any of the Six/Charley audios yet! (Though I've got a couple and they're getting a listening to soon. How is he with her?)

I haven't really decided where my brb_gallifrey Six is yet and who he's traveling with, but I would love to have a Charley there nonetheless!

[identity profile] notusachan.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
GO LISTEN TO SOME OF THEM RIGHT NOW. Ohhhhh my god, I love the two of them together. It makes me smile so so very much. I think I prefer Charley when she's traveling with Six to when she's traveling with Eight, even. ...Though that could have something to do with how I prefer Eight with Lucie, but um, yeah. Still. They're awesome.

[identity profile] cosmic-celery.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Just finished listening to the first Charley and Six audio. They're adorable!

6: You may be surprised to know it also TRAVELS IN TIME.
C: Mm.
6: ...
C: I mean...oh, OH MY GOODNESS.

[identity profile] notusachan.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
YES YES THAT PART. And then when he was like, "Well at least you're not being all zomg it's bigger on the inside." and Charley was like, "... Actually I was just about to say how small it is in here..."

I love them so so much it isn't even funny.

[identity profile] cosmic-celery.livejournal.com 2009-06-24 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, that part too! I love it.

*listening to The Doomwood Curse right now*

[identity profile] dragonessa24.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
Stream of consciousness can be interesting, but I personally think it wouldn't work for an entire story. It just gets... hm, a bit confusing, frustrating perhaps? to try and follow the action through the person's eyes, because their thoughts jump around so much. It can be nice for parts of a story or a ficlet though, IMO.

Oh, oh! Can I guess anyway? Is it the one in your icon?! Funnily enough I found that comm through your f-list yesterday (I swear I wasn't stalking you, I just wanted to see if the vid I posted was screwing up anyone's f-list, so I checked the first I stumbled over) and it looks to be a fun place. I want to RP the TARDIS so badly and it would seem like the ideal place, but she's listed as already taken. :'(

1. Oh, I really love that about the Who universe too. You can spend years exploring it all, and also it's most likely going to be around for a long while longer in one form or another.

3. I haven't listened to Year of the Pig yet, I'll have to do that. Did you listen to Zagreus before Scherzo? I found Scherzo to be both fascinating and disturbing, so I can never tell if I liked it or not.

4. &hearts Grace Under Pressure. &hearts What you said, and also David Hewlett was brilliant in it (though isn't he always). It was my most favorite until Tao of Rodney.

I'm gonna offer everyone who answered my interview questions to interview me too, for fairness'sake and for procrastination.

[identity profile] cosmic-celery.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Hm, maybe I'll mess around with the stream-of-consciousness thing a bit more and see if I can get it to flow. Who knows, I may end up writing two versions of this thing.

Hee, yes, I'm planning for Mark of the Rani. I like Twin Dilemma too, but I think that might be a bit too much for an introduction to Six...even though that's basically what it's supposed to be. brb_gallifrey is a bit nuts and a bit fun, and there's more classic who love there now that the watchalong's starting up! It's not a serious comm at all, but that's part of it's charm.

3. Yes, I did listen to Zagreus before Scherzo. Scherzo reminded me a bit of the movie Nothing, which is one of my favorite movies. Have you seen it? It's got David Hewlett in it!

Year of the Pig is great, and if I remember correctly, Six is a bit of a fanboy in it. &hearts

I'm going to throw some of your questions back at you (feel free to answer here if you don't want to post in your journal again):

1. How did you get into Doctor Who?
2. What sciences are you interested in?
3. What do you like about David Tennant's Doctor?
4. Who's your second favorite Stargate Atlantis character, and why?
5. Time travel is possible. Do you go to the past or the future?

[identity profile] dragonessa24.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 01:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That sounds like a good plan. There can never be enough Six fic.

I agree, Twin Dilemma isn't the best if you want people to like Six, lol. In fact, I just wrote a recommendation like that over at my journal, hee. How does the watchalong work there, do you meet in a chat or does everyone watch on their own? Over at [livejournal.com profile] who_anon we got a similar thing going, we meet every weekend in a chatroom (today it will be Time and the Rani, I'm already dreading Six's death).

3. Zagreus is my absolute favorite audio, there are so many things I love about it. Tepesh being one of them, of course. And you're right, Scherzo is a bit like Nothing! It is an awesome movie.

Oh, fanboy!Six? This audio just went up my to-listen-to-list to number one.

1. It started out about a year ago, when I was visiting my parents. My mom had gotten into it and was watching a couple season 3 Confidentials, and it looked interesting enough, so I asked to see it from the beginning. So Nine is the Doctor I started out with too. What most appealed to me about it was probably how it can be fun and absolute crack, but also serious and deep, and also its message of "Solve problems with words, not with violence", and that all life is equally precious. You don't often have a main character of another show flirt with a tree and be just as compassionate towards a pig in a spacesuit than he is to the pretty blonde girl.

2. Plenty, lol. Astrophysics, egyptology, archeology, paleontology, mythology, psychology... and linguistics, I guess. ;) Back in high school I had more time to dabble in them, so now I just watch documentaries when I catch them on TV. I always wish I knew more about them too.

3. Well, I think he's a lot of fun, with his grinning and jumping around (and especially bantering with Donna). And I was also really into his angst, and the "lonely god, mysterious past" thing really intrigued me, but only until I watched more of Old Who and saw how awesome the Doctor is without angsting all over the place. I still love him when he's happy (I think he has the sort of enthusiasm that pulls you right along with him, a bit like Six, only less dignified :P), but I do think it's time for him to regenerate to hopefully get relieved of all his angst.

4. Oh, that's John Sheppard. Until half into the first season, I couldn't decide between him and Rodney, lol. I particularly love his friendship with Rodney, but he's a clever geek in his own right too. And I guess since about the third season, he's a bit more open with showing his feelings, which makes him more accessible and interesting to me. I just don't connect as well with reserved characters as I do with the ones who hide their introvertedness behind brashness.

5. What, I have to choose? Well, I'm sure the future is interesting, but I know several places in the past I would absolutely love to see. Check out the dinosaurs and find out what killed them, explore the Minoan culture on Crete and find out what the palace of Cnossos was really used for and see what led to their demise, of course get a look at Ancient Egypt and its original glory, learn more about Celtic culture and runes... If I ever run into the Doctor, I do have a list, lol.

[identity profile] shobogan.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 03:33 am (UTC)(link)
I think it can definitely work, but you have to be careful - make sure you can see the narrative behind the rambling, I guess? (I've done it with Five, but only in short bursts. Also, he might have more thought control than Six. ;p)

What's [livejournal.com profile] brb_gallifrey like, overall?

1. *grin* Nine is my first Doctor, and Five my first Classic Doctor. /hi5? I love that there's so, so much to Who.

3. Loup Garoux! It is one of my very favourites, and not even just for the werewolves. And Scherzo is marvellous, in a painful way.

5. We have similar thoughts on science! Me, I'm interested but I'm a bit rubbish at it.

Interview me?

[identity profile] cosmic-celery.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Which stories did you do that with, and can I read them? Sometimes it's nice to see how other people have done things. As for Five having more thought control, I don't know. I think he just has more speech control. ;)

[livejournal.com profile] brb_gallifrey is pretty much what it says on the tin. It's a fun comm, and also a bit nuts. There's definitely a sense of community there, and the people there are really very accepting. At first it was mostly New!Who fans, but now it's grown a bit, and we're doing the classic watchalong - so there's a bunch of love for the classic series as well. Sometimes it goes over the silly quota a bit, but that's sort of what it's meant to do.

1. Hmm, not a Hi5 - Five is way too dignified for the High five, as documented by that awesome moment in Time Crash. man, if I need a gif of anything, that is it. Ah well, but yes! Excuse my wild tangents.

3. Yes, the Doctor is pretty dark in Scherzo, isn't he? I think I like that every once in a while, when it's done the right way. And I think they played it very well in that audio.

1. Who is your favorite character to write and why?
2. What sort of music do you listen to?
3. Have you ever ordered a cheeseburger without cheese? (and I hope you know what I'm referencing)
4. What's your favorite place?
5. If all of the Doctors got in a fight, who would win?

[identity profile] shobogan.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 05:25 am (UTC)(link)
Sure! Ah...now I can't find them. Apparently they are not on the master list. *ponders* And you do have a point. ;)

:D I do like a bit of silliness.

1. Your wild tangents are lovely. XD I may have some Issues with Time Crash but that moment was brilliant. Poor Ten.

3. He really is, in a disturbing but understanding way, which is why it's so effective.

Whee, questions!

[identity profile] cosmic-celery.livejournal.com 2009-06-22 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, well do let me know if you find them! :)

[identity profile] elliptic-eye.livejournal.com 2009-06-21 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you think that a story can be successfully written from the POV of a character's stream of consciousness? I was playing with the idea, but I'm not entirely sure if it works.

Sorry to be cliché, but… Virginia Woolf and James Joyce beg to disagree. Maybe find an example of the technique that you think is successful and parse out why it works? Or, maybe more instructive, find an example that you hate, and then spork it to hell and back to see why it doesn't.

At any rate, it seems like the trick is always to choose a stream-of-consciousness that's worth telling. Which makes it little different from any other writing.

[identity profile] cosmic-celery.livejournal.com 2009-06-22 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, there was a point to using the stream-of-consciousness thing for this, but I'll have to see if I can make it work.

Or, maybe more instructive, find an example that you hate, and then spork it to hell and back to see why it doesn't.

Excuse me while I go look for my copy of The Sound and the Fury...